For some time I’ve had a strict policy of not engaging in private exchanges with feminists, via email or otherwise. I can’t recall a private exchange with a feminist in the past 10 years which wasn’t a complete waste of my time. Feminism is, of course, a religion to most of its adherents. We should not be surprised, therefore, that feminists aren’t open to rational arguments and evidence bases which show their beliefs to be demonstrably false. I am, however, very keen on public exchanges with feminists, so as to increase the library of material showing their true colours. Occasionally I publish email exchanges, without divulging the identity of the Loony Tune in question.
I don’t receive many emails from feminists these days, I guess they’ve realised that it’s futile to contact me. But of the feminists who do email me, most are in the “but I’m a good feminist!” camp. They object to our challenges of feminism – quite ignoring the fact that feminism has been a cornerstone of the Establishment for decades – and say that we should collaborate with “good feminists” in the pursuit of gender equality. I had such an email yesterday morning, from ‘J’:
I have come across your website, and have been quite interested. I am a Feminist, but I am not of the “Radical feminist” Woman’s (sic) Lib, school of thought. I believe in equality for all, and unlike some feminists, recognise that there are also uneven area’s (sic) concerning men. Even if there are perhaps more concerning women, it does not mean that those concerning men are of no importance.
I have read some of your articles and manifesto, and whilst you have some valid points, you do scrape the barrel a bit for “Oppression”. I dislike the feminist’s (sic) insistence on “Oppression”, as it was not what feminism and equality was (sic) ever about from my prospective (sic). However, it seems that you have hooked onto it a bit. For example, your section on men’s interests being “Underrepresented” in parliament is far stretched (sic), as there are still many more men than women in parliament.
Also, why are you so opposed to all feminists? I agree with your opposition to radical feminism, but do you really have to ostracize all Feminists? Some, like myself, would be willing to look into issues where men are affected by inequalities as well as women.
I am willing to be open minded, and would collaborate with “MRA’S” if it meant that we could achieve greater equality for everyone. I am currently not involved in any organisation, and I am talking more generally than personally. I was just interested to hear your views on this.
Many thanks for reading this Email,
Now I could have spent an hour or two critiquing her email in detail, but I’d simply have been typing out what I’ve typed out countless times before. So I limited myself to replying as follows:
(Name redacted), thank you. You write:
“…your section on men’s interests being “Underrepresented” in parliament is far stretched, as there are still many more men than women in parliament.”
You seem to miss the point that male MPs no more advocate for men, than female MPs do. While both male and female MPs advocate for women.
Please point me to examples of non-radical feminists campaigning on men’s issues.
In our manifesto we explore 20 areas where the human rights of men and/or boys are assaulted by the actions and/or inactions of the state, almost always to privilege women and girls. Please inform me of the areas in which the state assaults the human rights of women and/or girls specifically. I don’t know of any. Women and girls in the UK belong to a very privileged class. So what exactly are non-radical feminists fighting for, in the UK in 2019, if not yet more female privilege (along with radical feminists)?
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