6 thoughts on “Jordan Holbrook: Women Underestimate Own Sexual Intention and Men Overestimate Women’s Sexual Intention”
I have read much the same in a number of psychological research papers over the year. The end is sensible advice which is both simpler and far more helpful than the feminist formulation that women have the “right” to dress and behave as “sluts” (what would the male equivalent be of a “Slut Walk?) and any male response including their “gaze” is tantamount to rape. So taking the paper’s advice much of “Pestminister” is about embarrassment rather than power or sexism. Rather than “codes” or helplines just some manners and apologies are all that were required (and I note that in some cases the “brave revelations” included that an apology actually had been given at the time of the “incident”).
The helpline and code all smacks of “telling teacher” rather than taking responsibility for oneself.
I would agree with the second half of that headline; I’ve always been paranoid about my own instincts (rightfully so in this era of anti-male hysteria it would now seem) precisely because women who seem interested too me have later been filled with astonishment that I’ve been interested in them. Sometimes this is just a bait and switch move to get something, but usually its genuine. I remember reading a female feminist columnist ranting about how she had had a fight with a friend’s husband, because he said that a woman who went back to a man’s hotel room at night would obviously know it was about having sex – she fervently disagreed and seemed genuinely angered that a man would assume that. Since I agreed with the husband (duh, why else would he be inviting you back to a private place late at night), it made me realize women really just don’t think the way we do sometimes.
Without the hysterical overlay and “personal is political” punishment I actually think relationship advice based on how human beings really are would be enormously helpful. For all the supposed “sexual revolution” and open discussion the feminist take on human sexual behaviour is no nearer to the truth than high Victorian Christian morality. In my youth I got hold of a little book “Sex Manners for Men” written in the early sixties. It was full of useful information including advice on balancing the different urges and approaches of the sexes to sustain a relationship. There was I think a sex manners for women book but with a different title by the same Doctor. It remains one of the most sensible books on relationships I’ve read.
I would guess though that it was along the lines of “Show respect to women and act responsibly and protectively towards them” It would be interesting to know if 16 year old girls are ever told to act responsibly and protectively towards males . Somehow I doubt it.
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I have read much the same in a number of psychological research papers over the year. The end is sensible advice which is both simpler and far more helpful than the feminist formulation that women have the “right” to dress and behave as “sluts” (what would the male equivalent be of a “Slut Walk?) and any male response including their “gaze” is tantamount to rape. So taking the paper’s advice much of “Pestminister” is about embarrassment rather than power or sexism. Rather than “codes” or helplines just some manners and apologies are all that were required (and I note that in some cases the “brave revelations” included that an apology actually had been given at the time of the “incident”).
The helpline and code all smacks of “telling teacher” rather than taking responsibility for oneself.
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I would agree with the second half of that headline; I’ve always been paranoid about my own instincts (rightfully so in this era of anti-male hysteria it would now seem) precisely because women who seem interested too me have later been filled with astonishment that I’ve been interested in them. Sometimes this is just a bait and switch move to get something, but usually its genuine. I remember reading a female feminist columnist ranting about how she had had a fight with a friend’s husband, because he said that a woman who went back to a man’s hotel room at night would obviously know it was about having sex – she fervently disagreed and seemed genuinely angered that a man would assume that. Since I agreed with the husband (duh, why else would he be inviting you back to a private place late at night), it made me realize women really just don’t think the way we do sometimes.
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Without the hysterical overlay and “personal is political” punishment I actually think relationship advice based on how human beings really are would be enormously helpful. For all the supposed “sexual revolution” and open discussion the feminist take on human sexual behaviour is no nearer to the truth than high Victorian Christian morality. In my youth I got hold of a little book “Sex Manners for Men” written in the early sixties. It was full of useful information including advice on balancing the different urges and approaches of the sexes to sustain a relationship. There was I think a sex manners for women book but with a different title by the same Doctor. It remains one of the most sensible books on relationships I’ve read.
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The only advice on sex manners I recall receiving, at sixteen, is not repeatable here.
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I would guess though that it was along the lines of “Show respect to women and act responsibly and protectively towards them” It would be interesting to know if 16 year old girls are ever told to act responsibly and protectively towards males . Somehow I doubt it.
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‘I would guess though that it was along the lines of “Show respect to women and act responsibly and protectively towards them”‘
It wasn’t, although, and I’m laughing as I type this, it was along the lines of ‘show some respect for her parents’ furnishings’.
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