Our thanks to Sean for this. Extracts:
Clearly, we’re going wrong somewhere. Men are socialised to feel ownership over women’s bodies, regardless of their pain or happiness. Women are conditioned to accept degrees of male aggression, and will often temper their response knowing that they risk being seriously hurt or even killed if they fail to comply… [J4MB: And the frequency with which husbands seriously hurt or kill their wives after being denied sex would be…?]
Consent can’t begin and end with dates. Consent can’t be the absence of a “no”. It can’t be an extra. It can’t be a one-off check. Consent [J4MB: From women only, presumably] has to be affirmative and enthusiastic every single time, from the first time to the last time. [J4MB emphasis]
The writer of the idiotic piece in the Independent is Hera Hussain. At the end of the piece:
Hera Hussain is the founder of chayn.co, a tech for good project supporting women and non-binary people experiencing domestic abuse [J4MB: She appears to have missed out men experiencing domestic abuse. We’ll get in touch with her, to alert her to her slip.]
The stated ethos of ‘Chayn’:
Everything that Chayn does has originated from a burning passion for gender equality, and for the emancipation and empowerment of women against overwhelming tides of patriarchy, oppression and abuse. Everything that Chayn does is to protest the patriarchal and misogynistic culture that still permeates the society. We don’t want to just speak out, but also act to stop it.
Justice for Men & Boys 
The last time I dared to look in the so-called ‘Independent’ it had appeared to follow the Guardian’s lead and barred comments on their crazy feminist nonsense.
I can’t understand how any self-respecting male could read this paper. Surely they’re alienating half their audience?
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I suspect that this sort of thing appeals to the white knight in some men. They seem to have a neurotic need to feel guilty about being a heterosexual male. I have even heard a man support the idea that there should be a quota of men accused of rape imprisoned each year to try to ensure that the guilty ones don’t get away with it, even if it means imprisoning a few innocent men. Mad.
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“the guilty ones…” The widely held belief that there are hundreds of thousands of these is based on extrapolated small samples, and very little evidence. Likewise, the widely-held belief that women are being routinely harassed on the tube, which the women’s groups are using to demand ever more special treatment. I have been travelling on the tube at all hours for over 40 years, and have never -ever – seen a woman being assaulted or harassed.
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I can not understand why any self respecting man still continues to treat these savage like, indoctrinated, anti-men women like a gentleman. Men need to start treating women in the opposite fashion. Not only is it necessary,but long overdue. The more we act out the tolerant gentlemen, the crazier and more militant women grow.
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The last time I dared look at the Independent, it was ranting that some of the old James Bond films were problematic around consent etc etc (like, no shit Sherlock…). I am very much afraid the Indie, which used to be an excellent paper when I was growing up, has turned into total garbage. What they will do when all the old dinosaurs keeping it going (and you may disagree with their political views, but they still have more heft than a 23 year old women’s studies graduate putting lists of Twitter freakouts together for her ‘articles’) like Patrick Cockburn retire I have no idea.
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The arrangement in Australia (yes, of course), is that a husband cannot demand sex from his wife – that would be rape – but, at the same time, cannot deny his wife sex – that would be abuse. At the same time, he cannot access his wife’s money, and cannot prevent her spending HIS.
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All seems fair and above board – incidentally, it sounds like there is an article on that which would be interesting to read on here someday.
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I expect an avalanche of such stuff as a campaign is mounted to distract from or justify the “believe the victim” stitching up of men accused of sexual offences (and I wonder if the Presidents Club nonsense wasn’t the same). As stories of case after case continue and the “review” raises questions.
Crying “Rape” is the feminists’ golden bullet engaging men’s support through their deep need to protect. It is why they extend it to an ever wider set of categories and go on about “rape culture”, because in fact at 3,000 cases each year Rape in law is in fact a very rare crime (and now we know even that 3000 may not be so true).
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‘Crying “Rape” is the feminists’ golden bullet … ‘
They’re shooting blanks, and have been for some time. That has been my reaction to a report of rape for some time; I think ‘perhaps’ automatically when I read or hear of another ‘rape’.
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What can one say here?
I’ve never heard of Ms Hussain before, but if the above piece is anything to go by, to compare her views to bull’s excrement might well be an unwarranted slur on the quality of the excrement of the average bull.
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‘Consent [J4MB: From women only, presumably] has to be affirmative and enthusiastic every single time, from the first time to the last time.‘
Not just presumably but legally, as far as I am aware: refusing sex is one of the many things a woman can do to a man, because it is her body and her right, while his doing it to her is ‘domestic abuse’, or at least it was when last I read anything about the proposal to create a new offence of Domestic Abuse, which covered things misandrous women find annoying in men that cannot rationally be considered to be violent. The notion that while he needs her consent to meet his needs she does not need his to meet hers is, I would argue, in line with the widespread female belief that what’s his is hers and what’s hers is hers.
It’s worth bearing in mind that when it was not possible for a husband to rape his wife it was not possible to prosecute a woman for withholding sex. One way of looking at that very contemporary reversal of official opinion is that the big state needs to suppress and eliminate those capable of independent and rational thought. Removing their innate right to bodily autonomy is a highly effective way of suppressing them.
As an afterthought, while what is and is not affirmative is absolutely undeniable, how can one assess enthusiasm objectively?
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And the feminists and their “Useful Idiots” wonder why MGTOW is increasing by leaps and bounds, even though it doesn’t have kind of any active recruiting.
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Yes, I’ve heard that MGTOW is increasing as well, from the evidence of internet searches.
But do you have any other evidence?
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