Feminists and progressives – Fabian_Solutions lets the cat out of the bag

Three days ago The Conservative Woman published my piece on how David Cameron’s plans to force large firms (250+ employees) to report their ‘gender pay gaps’ will inevitably inflate the average incomes of women and deflate the average incomes of men, regardless of the merit of individual workers. The piece led to lively exchanges of comments including many from ‘Fabian_Solutions’ and ‘Feminist_Future’, mostly the predictable tired nonsense about the patriarchy, societal expectations, gender stereotyping, blah, blah, blah…

Late that evening, the technical team at TCW were migrating data from one server onto another, and a number of pieces didn’t transfer, including mine. Happily it was republished this morning, but sadly with the loss of the comments stream (hopefully it will reappear at some point).

Fabian_Solutions posted one lengthy and illuminating contribution, in response to one of my comments, and we happened to capture it at the time. It simply confirmed what anti-feminist commentators including Herbert Purdy have long been saying about the corruption and manipulation of institutions by feminists and progressives:

You still don’t get it, do you? You’re trying to fight the culture war, but you don’t realize you’ve already lost it and we progressives have won.

I don’t often say this to people, but I’m so certain of our absolute victory there’s nothing to be lost from revealing a few things to you.

The “Culture Wars” reached public attention in the 1960s, although the philosophical roots of the struggle had been fought for decades earlier. However, the 60s and 70s were the last period when the conservative movement still had a realistic chance to turn the tide, in Britain and the US.

However, your key error was to fail to understand the bigger picture. You concentrated on the superficialities, like explicit pop lyrics and sex on TV, without realizing that the real underlying battle was taking place behind the scenes in the media, academia and political structures of the land. That is where we Feminists and progressives concentrated our efforts, with the long term in mind.

By the 1980s and 1990s, the effects of this were gradually being seen, as the pre-war generation retired and the baby boomer generation, which we had been able to reach out to with our radical ideas, began to take over positions of influence. Social conservatism was still widespread, in the shape of Thatcher and Whitehouse, but the tide was in our favour.

By the 2000s, the progressive baby boomer generation was in charge and before long, virtually every former bastion of social conservatism was under our control. Even the Daily Telegraph and the military have fallen. The ease with which gay marriage was passed is proof of how powerful we progressives had become and how completely we now dominate every institution.

I don’t mean to sound triumphalist, but I actually feel excited about the next 50 years. With the reactionary and regressive force of social conservatism now expunged, the generation now at school will be the first one to live their lives with virtually no conservative influence whatsoever – with no prejudice about gay marriage, who are used to mothers working and earning more than men. The possibilities are endless.

6 thoughts on “Feminists and progressives – Fabian_Solutions lets the cat out of the bag

  1. “You still don’t get it, do you? You’re trying to fight the culture war, but you don’t realize you’ve already lost it and we progressives have won”

    With everything that the current government is doing, there is someone out there who actually believes “progressives” won? We’re sliding, quite quickly, back towards the very worst kind of Dickensian/Victorian society and that’s considered progressive? Homelessness is soaring, we’ve got queues for food banks, a government that seems hell bent on legislating against political opposition and this is considered a victory for progressives? Fuck me.

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  2. Nothing to worry about. The sort of dystopia that agitates Feminist_Failure’s Fabian_Delusions cannot last long. The USSR is long past, even though the seeds of tyranny it sowed continue to grow, and English history is filled with the triumphs of right thinking men over tyrants.

    It won’t happen in our lifetimes but Englishmen who value liberty and intellect will win the day, one day.

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  3. Please realise that claims of cut and dried victory are themselves just another attack – a tactic, (attacktic?) no more or less, aimed at undermining morale and cohesive will.
    All aggressive ideologies have used this weapon to a greater or lesser extent, including Soviet communism with their “historic inevitability” to the Nazis and the ‘Lord Haw Haw’ broadcasts by William Brooke Joyce which usually began with the risable “Jair-many calling….”.
    Even the Borg meme-bots gave it a try with their “resistance is futile you will be assimilated” psychological attack. Fictional they may have been, but that the writers saw fit to include that idea in the script of a television programme is a sure indicator that this tired and theadbare old technique reflects the tired and threadbare old ideology behind it.
    Few will be fooled – in fact, quite the reverse.

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  4. Fabian_Solutions seems to be suffering from delusions of grandeur but what he/she is unwittingly admitting to, is the clandestine way in which so called ‘progressives’ have attempted to indoctrinate an entire generation with their ‘radical’ ideas.
    He/She is admitting to a fundamental manipulative dishonesty at the core of her movement, which is anti-democratic and in fact totalitarian.
    This crowing about victory sounds like whistling in the dark. The war is certainly not over.

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  5. Social conservatism is dead and without influence, but so is Socialism. For every example of the right adopting cultural marxist policies there is just as many examples of the left adopting free market libertarian policies and with the rise of the egalitarian MRA movement the Trad/cons and Fem/Marxists are both being challenged and the next 50 years will see the rise of true equality and equalism and we will become the true progressives.

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