Jordan Peterson: When Does Masculinity Become Toxic? | David French | EP 560

An interesting discussion (video, 1:08:15) between Peterson and David French, a former Army veteran, and a self-declared evangelical Christian conservative. The video description:

“Sparked by French’s recent New York Times article, “The Democrats’ $20 Million Man Problem,” he and Jordan Peterson discuss the societal failures contributing to male alienation—fatherlessness, loss of purpose, overmedication, and a culture that increasingly pathologizes masculinity. French shares personal insights as a father, veteran, and conservative commentator (who is regularly published in Liberal outlets), and the two expand on themes of demoralization, the need for intentional rites of passage, and the psychological appeal of figures like Andrew Tate. The conversation closes with a stark agreement—we urgently need to reach young men with empathy, structure, and a meaningful vision for life.”

Astonishingly, no references are made to feminism and feminists, or male disadvantaging being the inevitable consequence of female privileging. The talk is all about alleviating the suffering of young men and boys, with no exploration of what is causing that suffering in the first place (other than left-wing female teachers, in the case of boys).

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  1. This picks up one truth Whisper it, but ‘special educational needs’ is becoming an unaffordable racket As is pointed out not only does this explosion of SEND label tens of thousands with ADHD and “neurodivergence” with only 3% of pupils having a recognised physical disability (these were the majority of SEND only 10 years ago). Not pointed out is that most of this explosion are male pupils, ADHD, Conduct Disorders, Autistic Spectrum disorders all really being that the pupil doesn’t fit in and teachers can’t think of anything useful to do. Not only does this cause a massive increase on spending but of course the knock on effect is that these many thousands leave school believing they are unemployable and permanently “disabled”, hence the emerging panic about all the young people, mainly young men, not entering the workforce.

    And there is the irony because the new debate about the young men “NEET” and not entering the workforce in a sense illustrates what happens if you do decide men are of no use and they take the hint and don’t step on to the employment treadmill! After decades (i recently linked to David Blunketts 2000 policy to address boys poor outcomes in education) of doing nothing as our education system has studiously ignored the needs of boys in general, and specially those with abundance of energy and initiative. More latterly using drugs and exclusion and “neurodivergence” (divergent from what?) to obviate the need to actually teach all sorts of pupils, not just “amazing” girls. The result is that we have a growing “hole” in our workforce (eg my local small garage which used to rely on the local college for apprentices but for two years has had no one because the college has so few doing “engineering” ) One that has started to be noticed.. Of course no one is likely to trace this back (as Mary Curnock Cook did) to the ideological bias within education which studiously ignored David Blunkett’s (as Education Secretary) attempts to address the growing “gap” 25 years ago. As Mary Curnock Cook found the feminist “Blob” s contention for ding nothing to help boys thrive in education was because much later in life men generally earned more. Shockingly, but to too few, that argument says “we’re not interested in boy’s thriving in education because somehow they’ll make up for our deliberate neglect of their education later in life”.

    Perhaps the realisation of the practical effect, making the whole society poorer by reducing the productive workforce, might be the beginning of teasing out just why, for at least 25 years, an obvious dysfunction in our education system, one so obvious that a Labour minister tried policies to address it, was actively perpetuated. Maybe the truth about feminist ideology might just get spotted and named.

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