Our thanks to Pete for this (video, 1:04), from 2012. It’s fair to say Jordan Peterson supporters have found the site in recent days. One writes, “This is like watching your drunk aunt have a mental breakdown”, another, “Why has she got a dead ferret on her head?”
Month: January 2018
Cathy Newman to Jordan Peterson: “What you’re saying is…” (a compilation)
Our thanks to Len for this (video, 3:42).
Woman Sour: Jenni Murray’s interview of Alison Saunders on recent ‘failed’ rape trials
Just published (audio, 10:59) on our YouTube channel. The episode of Woman Sour was broadcast yesterday.
Rape trials under threat
A piece by David Brown (Chief News Correspondent) and Frances Gibb (Legal Editor), starting on the front page of today’s Times. Emphases ours.
Rapists will get away with their crimes because police and prosecution failings have undermined public confidence in the justice system, the former head of the judiciary has warned.
Juries could be deterred from convicting in future sexual assault trials because they would not have faith in evidence placed before the court, Lord Judge said. The former lord chief justice spoke out after The Times exposed how four rape trials had collapsed after crucial evidence was disclosed only at the last minute. He described the disclosure failings in all four cases as alarming and deeply troublesome.
Oliver Mears, 19, an Oxford student, was cleared of rape yesterday after spending two years on bail. The Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) and Surrey police, which handed over relevant evidence days before his trial was due, were criticised by the case judge and ordered to explain in writing the “completely unnecessary” delays.
The development came as:
• Surrey police followed Scotland Yard in reviewing all current rape cases. [J4MB: All police forces should be doing the same, then reviewing all convictions going back at least five years.]
• Police and prosecutors admitted failing to hand over vital digital evidence in a rape trial for the fourth time in a month.
• Alison Saunders, the director of public prosecutions, faced criticism over her handling of disclosure issues.
Lord Judge, who was the most senior judge in England and Wales in 2008-13 and remains an influential judicial figure in the House of Lords, said that the failings over disclosure of evidence were “deeply worrying” because of the possible impact on juries. [J4MB: So, not worrying because innocent men are being sent to prison, and have been for years?]
“The recent examples in cases involving alleged sexual crime are alarming, both for all the individuals concerned and for public confidence in the administration of criminal justice generally,” he told The Times. “It is at least possible that from time to time juries, alarmed as everyone else by these cases, may wonder, even in an apparently strong case, whether they have been provided with all the admissible evidence. These events may reduce the prospects of conviction even when the allegation is genuine.” [J4MB: On the bright side, it will also reduce the prospects of conviction when the allegation is false.]
Delays in cases, with some suspects or defendants awaiting charge for nearly two years, were also unacceptable and caused “unnecessary suffering to all involved”, [J4MB: Other than the many women making false accusations] he said. Lord Judge called for a swift investigation into the failure to disclose evidence, and also into the delays in the charging of suspects by the CPS.
The criticisms will increase pressure on Ms Saunders, who was criticised after saying on Thursday that innocent men were not in jail, despite admitting “systemic issues” in disclosing evidence to defence lawyers. Anna Soubry, a former minister who described Ms Saunders as “part of the problem”, was supported by her fellow Tory MP Zac Goldsmith, who wrote: “The blundering CPS is responsible for a catalogue of appalling injustices.”
Ms Saunders had said that police need not check social media accounts fully when investigating allegations of rape. This is despite failures to hand over digital media being at the centre of three previous rape trial collapses, including that last month of the student Liam Allan, 22, which led to political and public concern about rape cases.
Jon Savell, Surrey police’s head of public protection, admitted yesterday that flaws in the Mears investigation included a detective failing to “examine the victim’s [J4MB: The victim here was Mears, not the complainant] digital media during the initial stages of the investigation or follow what we would consider to be a reasonable line of inquiry”. He added that the review of all the force’s rape cases was to “ensure that investigations are thorough, timely, effective and compliant with policy and guidelines”.
Yesterday Judge Jonathan Black formally found Mr Mears, from Horley, Surrey, not guilty of rape and an indecent assault. The CPS had denied on Thursday that the case had collapsed because of a “disclosure issue” but the prosecutor ordered by the judge to attend Guildford crown court to explain the decision not to offer evidence admitted that key information had not been handed over by police until last week. [J4MB: So it WAS a disclosure issue, the CPS were lying yet again.] Sarah Lindop, for the prosecution, told the judge: “This case is old and it was quite old when it came in to the hands of the CPS and I do not know the reason for that. Further material was obtained and was reviewed in a case that was finely balanced.”
Judge Black said: “It seems that if this was a case that was as finely balanced as you say it was, there have been unnecessary delays in investigating [and] what seems to be a completely unnecessary last-minute decision.
“Oliver Mears and the complainant have had this matter hanging over their heads for more than two years in circumstances that, if their investigation had been carried out properly in the first place, we would not have been in this position.”
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A response to Channel 4 News “calling in security experts”
Yesterday we posted a piece, Pathetic article in The Guardian: “Channel 4 News calls in security experts after presenter suffers online abuse”. Our thanks to HappyCheese for posting the following comments:
This is a classic case of ‘damseling’; Cathy Newman had an abrasive combative style throughout the interview, and clearly struggled to contain her contempt throughout for her guest and his views. Despite this (and probably because he knew that he would be accused of misogyny by the SJW Amen Legions the second he responded in kind) Peterson held his cool and stuck to his guns throughout, repeatedly having to correct his interviewer when she put words in his mouth (or just garbled feminazi talking points which made no sense and were spouted out of nowhere to break her guest’s train of thought on what are very complex topics).
Having made an utter arse of herself on national TV, Newman “has faced a wave of abuse and threats online, including on Twitter”. I assume this is the leftwing discovering how people like Toby Young feel when Twitter corrects their WrongThink, an SJW lynch mob phenomena which I have seen newspapers like the Guardian and the Independent do nothing but fan, giving platforms to the most insane SJWs (and there is a lot of competition for that title) whenever there is one of these fake social media spats of linguistics that they can find.
Well, I have no pity for Cathy Newman or any other man hating deluded feminazi – come back to me when you’ve condemned your own followers for the way that they have turned debate in th is country into a moral purity test, with the unworthy to be thrown out of the light of ‘respectability’ into the darkness of civil death, where you can persecute them with prison, loss of income (Daily Mail anyone?), verbal and physical abuse (TERFs), sackings etc etc.
Always remember, the tears of a strong independent woman are like those of a crocodile; they are meant to lure and disarm, to making the process of gutting you and playing with your intestines a little bit easier. For example, one wonders if Cathy would reach out to her own followers and tell them to stop calling Dr Peterson a transphobic cis-gender privileged white man who should be sacked and thrown in the clink for hate crimes?
*Cue wind whistling through empty streets in the eerie silence which follows*
Fuck SJWs, fuck their feelings, fuck their opinions. [J4MB: Good points, well made.] When they are ready to act like civilized people who share a common society with us, then they will be entitled to its decencies and courtesies. Until then, they reap what they sow.
Laura Perrins crosses the BBC’s red line
Enjoy. The end of the piece:
Martin Daubney, we have to acknowledge, has a point. He tweeted: ‘Why does this podcast entitled “Should we all be feminists?” last 43 minutes when it takes a split second to conclude “no”?’
Abuse probe farce: Esther Baker, ‘fantasist’ who claimed she was raped by an MP she had ‘never met’, is named as a special witness for the child sex inquiry
Our thanks to Mike P for this. The start of the piece:
A woman accused of lying about a Westminster paedophile plot has been awarded special status at a public inquiry into child sex abuse.
Esther Baker, who made unsubstantiated rape allegations against a former Liberal Democrat MP, has been made a ‘core participant’ at the Independent Inquiry into Child Sexual Abuse (IICSA).
Core participants are entitled to apply for taxpayer-funded legal representation. They can also make opening and closing statements at hearings, suggest lines of questioning, and receive electronic disclosure of evidence.
The decision to give her special status comes months after police dropped an investigation into her claims against ex-MP John Hemming. Prosecutors ruled there was insufficient evidence to press charges.
He and others had been accused by Miss Baker of repeatedly raping her in a forest at Cannock Chase, Staffordshire, in the 1980s and 1990s when she was between the ages of six and 11 – while police kept guard.
She waived her legal right to anonymity in 2015 to give a TV interview about her alleged ordeal.
Mr Hemming was voluntarily interviewed under caution by Staffordshire Police, but not arrested, and made a formal allegation to police that Miss Baker had perverted the course of justice.
Model, 18, who dreams of studying business at Cambridge is auctioning off her virginity to pay for her studies – and claims opening bid was £890,000
Our thanks to Martin for this. The wannabe businesswoman (allegedly):
Pathetic article in The Guardian: “Channel 4 News calls in security experts after presenter suffers online abuse”
Our thanks to Y for this. Extracts:
The combative Channel 4 interview [J4MB: Only Cathy Newman was combative] led to praise for Peterson and criticism for Newman on some right-leaning sites. [J4MB emphasis] James Delingpole, a Breitbart columnist, said the interview marked a “pivotal victory in the culture wars” and that the “weaknesses of the regressive left have never been more cruelly or damningly expose (sic)”. Douglas Murray in the Spectator said: “I don’t think I have ever witnessed an interview that is more catastrophic for the interviewer.”
Newman has faced a wave of abuse and threats online, including on Twitter. There is no suggestion that Peterson, Delingpole or Murray are behind the threats or instigated them. [J4MB: Presumably there is no suggestion Donald Trump, Jacob Rees-Mogg MP, Philip Davies MP, or my Aunt Gloria are behind the threats or instigated them, aren’t they worthy of mention?]
The comments section is disabled, presumably to spare the ‘moderators’ – censors – from having to delete 99% of them.
William Collins: The Fight for Universal Suffrage in the UK
Those with a keen interest in gender politics are surely aware that the coming 6 February will be a historic anniversary on two counts:
- the centenary of The Representation of the People Act (1918)
- the fifth anniversary of the launch of Justice for Men & Boys (2013)
A tip of the hat to Ewan Jones, the intrepid Welsh videomaker, for recording a video interview (1:30:41) with William Collins, on the fight for universal suffrage in the UK. We encourage you to read the brief video description before watching the piece.
William Collins will be speaking at the July conference, his talk title is, “Men and boys in the UK: Edited lowlights”. The speaker list is here.
Justice for Men & Boys 