Remaining silent during a rape could be conceived as consent, Alison Saunders says

Our thanks to Richard for this. An extract:

Remaining silent during a rape could be seen as consent, the country’s most senior prosecutor has suggested.

Alison Saunders, the Director of Public Prosecutions, said a suspect in such a case could have a “reasonable belief” that they had been given consent and so may not face prosecution.

Ms Saunders explained that the CPS should act as “a protection” for both sides in the wake of a rape allegation and ensure that suspects are not wrongly put on trial. [J4MB emphasis. Is Saunders announcing a policy about-turn?]…

“We are there not just to be able to prosecute cases where there has been an offence, but also not to prosecute cases where there isn’t sufficient evidence.” [J4MB emphasis: Mark Pearson? Kato Harris? Many others?]

She said the judgment in such cases was about “context” and insisted that​ despite recent criticisms, she understood the “devastating” impact rape allegations could have on the lives of innocent suspects. [J4MB emphasis: She “understood”, and revelled in the devastation of innocent men.]

“We have never done the extreme of if someone says they’ve been raped or just wants to shout rape then that’s enough,” she added.

10 thoughts on “Remaining silent during a rape could be conceived as consent, Alison Saunders says

    • .. yep.. a damage limitation excercise…
      … but she STILL can’t bring herself to consider that NO CRIME WAS COMMITTED on the occasions where that is clearly the case!!

      Perhaps she has some kind of phobia regarding sexual intercourse? She perhaps regards it as being so grubby and abhorrent (under any circumstance) that men must be punished for it where ever possible… ?
      I am serious. Take a look at her face. :-/ Women like this exist..

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      • Perhaps she has some kind of phobia regarding sexual intercourse?

        I concede that the comment is low, however I cannot resist observing that the lady does not need a phobia to avoid sexual intercourse. I’m sure she has no trouble there.

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  1. Of course the final comment is sophistry as what else is the injunction to always “believe the woman”. Fortunately despite the feminist lobbying behind the Sexual Offences Act, It retained the defence that their was a “reasonable” belief of consent by the defendant. Hence the feminist campaigns to limit the evidence that could be given about behaviour prior and subsequent to the incident. As for instance the defence may persuade a jury that previous and subsequent (specially the latter) consensual sex corroborates the defence that it was reasonable to believe it was so on each occasion. So this was what eventually presented at the Ched Evans case, similar incidents prior and subsequently corroborated Evan’s defence. So the “consent classes” are not strictly correct though young men are best advised to always get clear evidence of consent on each occasion.

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  2. Perhaps the fuss has worked?

    Perhaps she fears for her own future?

    Perhaps someone has taken her to one side and ‘had a friendly word’ with her?

    Perhaps she needs to deflect immeditate criticism the better to persue some more important longer term purpose?

    I should welcome any other ideas or suggestions.

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  3. This person – Alison Saunders – says this :
    “We are there not just to be able to prosecute cases where there has been an offence, …. but also not to prosecute cases where there isn’t sufficient evidence.”

    This is DISGRACEFUL.

    The phrase necessary here was clearly this :
    “…but also NOT to prosecute WHERE NO CRIME HAS BEEN COMMITTED”.

    Her statement regarding there not being ‘enough evidence’ demonstrates that she covertly BELIEVES allegations of rape against men as her default position.
    That reveals a great deal.
    It goes beyond ‘guilty until proven innocent’ and demonstrates an attitude which states “Guilty – whatever the outcome”. (Ie If the girl has sexual intercourse under circumstances that she later regrets… she has a right to regard that encounter as rape, even though the circumstantial evidence proves otherwise).
    And this woman is supposed to be professionally impartial.

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  4. Not saying no to sex could be conceived of as permission to keep having sex.

    In other news, Pope still identifies as Catholic, bears still defecating in woods. When will toilet facilities be built to remedy this?

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