Channel 4 News is, if anything, more feminism-driven than BBC TV News. Cathy Newman (43) is the most bombastic feminist interviewer on the programme. So I was delighted to watch five minutes from her interview of Jordan Peterson on the programme this evening.
Newman interrupted Peterson repeatedly and outrageously, pressed him with feminist narratives (gender pay gap, the number of female CEOs in the FTSE100, yawn…), asked daft questions such as, “Is gender equality a myth?” (Peterson: “I don’t know what you mean by the question”), kept taking offence, and repeatedly put words in his mouth. He responded with remarkable patience, making Newman look like a silly schoolgirl in the process. The full interview is on the programme’s YouTube Channel – here (video, 29:55).
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Now I have to be honest I did laugh where she finally admitted she was flummoxed. If only more clinical psychiatrists would “come out” and simply say it as it is. It is no accident that the contrary voices to the DV mantra come from Psychiatry and Psychology Departments in this country. They are “silenced” by being ignored because of the political hold of “myths and magic medicine” (an excellent pamphlet by the way) pushed by pressure groups such as the Fawcettes etc. As he says the problem isn’t that there is contrary evidence to the myths and magic medicine proposed but that it has to suppress scientific evidence by “Maoist” techniques. In fact I watched this just after seeing a report on China and Hong Kong where the Chinese response to “umbrella” protests is to tighten the screw through changing the laws and legal process to suppress opposition while still claiming to support free association and speech, so long as it doesn’t “disturb” good order and isn’t “offensive” , same tool box still in the not so “Communist” Communist Party. Just as Dr. Peterson had pointed out.
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Fawcettes?
Are they a Feminist girl band that are more annoying than a dripping tap?!
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I was delighted he mentioned the “Gender Segregation” of occupations in Sweden. Sweden has for many years been high on measures of “Gender Equality” due to quotas, abortion, maternity and parental leave etc. It has deployed the panoply of feminist “magic medicine” . However in outcomes for women it is in point of fact a feminist failure. It is only average on the “pay gap” in Europe. Has one of the lowest proportions of females in higher management and one of the most “gender segregated” workforces as women have crowded into the state sector. As Peterson points out in making things very easy for women to choose what they want in work Sweden has actually facilitated choices that mitigate against Equal(Same) outcomes. As Simone de Beauvoir pointed out the danger of giving women the choice to be at home more, is that they will choose to do so! Looking at the actual stats. for Sweden is worth it, if nothing else to counter feminists who believe it is quite different than the reality.
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You can be sure he was the one who was meant to look silly, this being intended as a destruction piece.
They went and picked the wrong victim though…
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For a period of 30 minutes, Kathy Newman slurs Peterson, puts words into Peterson’s mouth and generally projects like there is no tomorrow.
With a controlled force of great power, Peterson remains deliberately calm and (superficially) unruffled throughout.
Kathy Newman cannot land a finger on Peterson, despite her attempting to use every nasty trick in the feminist handbook. Peterson shuts down every one of her attacks, as if he were talking to a five-year old.
Peterson’s performance is the TV interview analogue of Kipling’s ‘If’.
A great example to all of us.
In fact, it is the definitive exposition of how to rise above those who attack one’s position with disingenuous and dishonest arguments.
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Quite bizarre – she’s an intelligent woman who has had the best education money can buy, yet she seems incapable of reasoning. The number of times she accuses him of saying something he hasn’t said is astonishing.
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In common with so many feminists, she’s utterly incapable of looking at the world through anything other than a feminist lens. So she’s utterly incapable of interviewing Jordan Peterson, or any other non-feminist, professionally. I’ve had the same experience with TV and radio interviews with feminists. The more of them there are against me, the less able they are to engage with my arguments.
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This video should be shown to every student of journalism.
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“The number of times she accuses him of saying something he hasn’t said is astonishing” Yes well she is a journalist after all and isn’t that what journalists do . I think that she makes the mistake of interviewing him as if he were a politician. She is hostile from the word go and what impressed me most about Peterson was that he not only resisted the temptation to throttle her but actually I think managed to charm her.
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Also one could add that Newman is trying to be aggressive beyond her competence.
It’s this arrogance which causes her to come unstuck in the presence of a superior force.
P.S.
Does anyone still remember a 1960s quiz show (“Take your Pick” I think it might have been) in which the compere, the late Michael Miles, pressures a contestant with quick fire questions in “The Yes No interlude” in the answering of which they had NOT to reply with either a ‘yes’ or a ‘no’ to win a crisp £1 note?
Unmissable similarity here, but with more than one pound at stake this time…
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I urge you to watch the whole interview Mike. It is an absolute classic. If nothing else, go to 22:45 and watch the next 20 seconds, where Newman’s blind ideology simply fails and she literally has no words left.
Times up, Cathy. You had a good run. But you can only fool so many people for so long.
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Thanks PCS, I have of course watched the whole interview. Twice.
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Only twice? Mike you deserve more fun in your life for all your hard work! Pour yourself a glass and watch it again!
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