Germany introduces law that allows women to find out what male colleagues are paid

Madness. An extract:

EU commissioner for justice, consumers, and gender equality Vera Jourova said: “It is an unacceptable and shocking injustice that women in 21st century Europe work two months a year for free. This gender pay gap has remained the same for many years.”

10 thoughts on “Germany introduces law that allows women to find out what male colleagues are paid

  1. No offense but I think this law is fine. It doesn’t just allow women to see men’s wages, but the other way around too. And when women do find out what men are paid, they’ll find out its exactly the same for the same work. Will probably work in men’s favour.

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    • Daniel, the law is being introduced “in a bid to tackle the country’s sizeable gender pay gap.” So your point makes no sense (no offence).

      “Workers will have the right to ask their employers what colleagues in similar jobs.” Similar jobs, note, not the same jobs. And who will decide what jobs are ‘similar’? What about issues such as unsocial hours, invariably disregarded in feminist BS ‘work of equal value’ schemes, run by HR departments packed with women? Women will invest time in this nonsense, men won’t.

      And what about the issue of person x and person y having purportedly the same jobs, but person x devoting more hours, becoming more expert, and being more productive? Given gender-typical work ethic and work hours differences, this will tend to mean men earning more than women. I’m endlessly being told of situations where men and women are paid the same, but when (say) heavy lifting is required, the women disappear, and the men do the work. Same in other areas. Since when did female police officers stand at the front of a line of officers raiding ahouse where people have stored drugs? When do female prison officers sort out a fight among prisoners? It’s always their male colleagues (paid the same) who do it.

      Time and again we see the Wimbledon effect – same income for less effort.

      The truth at the end of the piece:

      Christian von Stetten, a lawmaker from Angela Merkel’s centre-right Christian Democratic Union (CDU) party, said last year that some 4,000 companies would be burdened with additional bureaucracy as a result of the legislation.

      “The right to demand salary information will foster workplace envy and discontent,” he told German newspaper Die Welt.

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      • And we, who are of mature intellect, all know that there is no such thing as a ‘gender pay gap.’

        This is a concept that bounces around inside the empty skulls of feminists who are only interested in having unqualified women working in jobs far superior to their abilities, just so they can earn the bigger dollars and have more prestige, or to have women doing less demanding jobs, but getting paid the same amount of money as the men who are busting their arses.

        What gets me is, if the women in the general community want all men to treat them with respect…..to treat them as if they are of equal intelligence and maturity, then how can these same women behave in such a reprehensible manner?

        I mean, there is nothing more demeaning and insulting to a mature intellect, than to be rewarded or should I say, OVER compensated for something you have not done or are not capable of doing.
        Most mature people find this offensive and an insult to their intelligence!

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  2. So now women will have to be paid the same as an equivalent man, even though she may be lazy, and incompetent? Certainly, the women I worked with were paid the same as me, and, moreover, got their state pensions five years before me! And, I would say, in all honesty, about half of them were average, or better than average.However, about half of them were incompetent, or work shy. (As were a much smaller proportion of men, of course. Probably, 5%.) Naïve as I was, I joined one office and got stuck in, then, after some months there, my only other male colleague (he was newer than me) tapped me on the arm and asked: “Don’t you notice anything?” I said: “No? What am I missing?” He waited until our two female colleagues had gone out of the room and said:” You and I are doing all the work.” When the women returned, I noticed that whilst my male colleague and I were taking work from a pile at the end of the desk, the females were looking around the room or otherwise time-wasting. My colleague said: “From now on, we’ll work when they work, and we’ll stop when they stop.” This was soon noticed by management, who called us all together and told us they were re-arranging the office. From then on, they said, they would divide the work up between us and each of us would be fully responsible for doing what we had been allocated. Within a few months, the two women were gone, transferring out to other offices, to get away from work they could no longer shirk.

    In another case (I was working in finance) I went into an office into which we had to send documents for input into the computer system and the boss there held one document up to show it to me, and said: “Look. We’re getting this sort of thing every day from (the name of one of my female colleagues). There are just TWO entries on this sheet of paper, and ONE of them is incorrect!” And this was a woman who the office manager had promoted over me because he didn’t like me!

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  3. “Across the EU Italy and Luxembourg have the lowest gender pay gaps, with a disparity of 5.5% in 2015, while the UK has a 20.8% pay gap, the fifth highest in the European grouping”
    Now lets ask ourselves what is different about Italy at 5.5% and countries like the UK and Germany (and in fact Sweden with three times the gap found in Italy despite being feminism central). Well Italy has very limited parental leave, comparatively little “family friendly” flexible hours and a comparatively large self employed and small and medium firms sectors. Women are also in fact less “segregated” in job roles with women in Italy and southern Europe being such things as street cleaners “binmen” etc. In short women in work in Italy have to work in the same way as men. This is true of other low “Pay gap” nations notably Poland and other eastern European countries. So the countries with family friendly employment policies and high levels of part time or reduced hours employment in their economies providing choice of work life balance for women are also the ones with the biggest pay gap! Who would have thought it.
    Now the obvious thing to achieve a low pay gap in a large economy would be to look at those countries who have low pay gaps. Italy or Poland being obvious places to start. But no we are supposed to look to Sweden with not much better than GB or Germany. Of course this isn’t done because for it would mean considering the obvious; that the message from Europe (and the “tiger” economies of the wider world) it that to reduce the pay gap to single digits men and women have to do the same work tasks for the same duration. The “pay gap” in Germany (as in the UK, Netherlands, Scandinavia) is the price paid for “work/life balance” for women. It is really that simple.

    Have a look at this interesting map: http://uk.businessinsider.com/eurostat-map-of-the-gender-pay-gap-in-europe-2015-10
    Ponder that not only are Italy and Poland very good on the pay gap front(as is the former east Germany (with a lingering belief that a worker is a Worker perhaps) but southern Italy and Poland’s big cities in its east are where the gap is in womens’ favour. Interesting also that the regions of finance administration and high tech industries are those with the biggest “bad” gap. Perhaps also at play is the sorts of industry and companies involved, you know rather than genitalia being the biggest factor.

    Finally if you can bear it: http://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php/Gender_pay_gap_statistics Where we find in most counties the gender pay gap sharply rises at child bearing and caring ages apart from Italy and a few others where it remains pretty even or rises relatively little. Again the clue is these are not countries known for their “family friendly” part time hours. There are indeed non so blind as those who will not see.

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  4. One can easily see this lunatic law putting employers out of business in Germany.

    Meanwhile we have some cause for celebration, I think. The CPS and the police will surely think twice before pressing charges for obviously false claims of rape and other forms of sexual assault, after all the adverse publicity. We may be able to reverse feminism, but it will require a titanic struggle lasting several years. It resembles a freedom struggle like the anti-Atlantic slave trade campaign.

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  5. We all know that opening statement about working two months for free is a lie, and we all know the technique is to just keep repeating it anyway.

    We also know that the e.u. may be best described as 'The Fourth Reich', being a continuation of the 'Third by other means'.
    
    If that doesn't seem to fit, bear in mind that 'Nazi' is a contraction of 'National Socialist'.
    

    So there’s that dreaded ‘S’ word again which, as ever, destroys all it touches…..

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  6. P.S.
    Quote from the end of the piece: –

    “….The right to demand salary information will foster workplace envy and discontent,” he told German newspaper Die Welt….”

    Which is EXCACTLY what it is intened to do.
    Agitate, destabilise, damage and weaken.
    The techique never changes.

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