Julie Bindel: “Yes, there’s a major problem with rape prosecutions. But it’s not that women are lying.”

A piece by Julie Bindel in The Guardian, packed with the unsubstantiated anecdotes and absurd ‘arguments by assertion’ for which she’s long been infamous. An extract:

Why are more people not up in arms about the huge numbers of false assertions of men’s innocence; false allegations of women’s complicity; and false allegations of how women deserve or enjoy nonconsensual sex? After all, significant numbers of women, and some men, are raped, sexually assaulted, sexually harassed, and sexually violated, and we know that it is more likely that the actual rape victim will end up in prison (as a result of the damage done to her and the knock-on effects throughout her life) than her rapist. [J4MB emphasis. Oddly, there’s no link to evidence to substantiate the claim. Why might that be?]

And how about this for classic Bindel misinformation?

Bearing in mind that only 6% of rape cases end up with a rape conviction for rape in this country, [J4MB: Bindel is referring here to rape ALLEGATIONS – referring to them as ‘rape cases’ is deliberately misleading, as it implies all allegations are genuine (victims must be believed, men who deny rape must not be believed). Most allegations don’t result in trials, for a variety of reasons. In a typical year, 30-45% of men who are charged with rape end up being convicted] that would mean that 94% of women thatwho (sic) report it are lying, that would mean a vast number of women are lying. [J4MB emphasis: That may be the case, but Bindel’s statistic implies no more than that in the majority of cases of rape allegations, the police / CPS are disinclined to take the matter to trial, and even when there is a trial, in more than 50% of cases juries decide the evidence is not of a sufficient standard to convict the men. A proportion of the women in those cases will certainly be lying, possibly the majority, but we cannot know how many. After all, what incentive is there for a woman who’s made a false rape allegation, to admit she’d lied? None. Given the (very remote) possibility of the woman later being prosecuted for perverting the course of justice and/or wasting police time, the strong incentive is to maintain the lie.]

After being exposed to Bindel’s writing, you may need some light relief. So it is that I recommend a short video (4:15) published two years ago by 5hadowfax, 1945: Adolf Hitler starts to question his own insanity after being exposed to Julie Bindel. Enjoy.

7 thoughts on “Julie Bindel: “Yes, there’s a major problem with rape prosecutions. But it’s not that women are lying.”

  1. The expected backlash which will mount as the systematic injustice, the terms not of MRAs but CPS Barristers no less is starting to unravel. It is the the “beginning of the beginning” for the truth is that looking more closely will reveal what the Barristers say, that there is routine perversion of justice to prosecute and imprison men fr crimes that it would be easy to disprove. And as Barrister after barrister has said today (I’m amazed) the root is the duty to investigate has been replaced by manipulation to convict. “Feminism” won’t be mentioned by name but a “cancer” in our system is starting to be named.

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  2. In a sense she is right. The problem is that the Police and CPS aren’t doing their job and establishing the facts. Its far more serious than whether some fantasist , jilted lover or woman with bruised pride waltzes off to the police. The point is that when she does the Police do not investigate as is there duty, they simply doctor the evidence. And its not MRAs saying this but prosecuting and defending Barristers. It is they who describe this as “systematic”. As Alison Pearson says the point is that the agents of the crown are deliberately undermining justice.
    I do not expect Saunders to resign or be sacked, and in a real sense she simply follows Keir Starmer whose political career followed on from his “virtue signalling” on “rape” .

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  3. Quote:-

    “….Bearing in mind that only 6% of rape cases end up with a rape conviction for rape in this country, that would mean that 94% of women thatwho (sic) report it are lying, that would mean a vast number of women are lying.”

    The late ‘Angry’ Harry convincingly calculated that 90 % of rape allegations had to be false.
    This appears to tie in well with the above figure.
    Harry’s web site is now hosted by AVFM and can be viewed here :

         www.angryharry.com
    

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  4. Bindel writes, “I think we live in a climate where… the men guilty of it [i.e. accused] are generally… assumed to be innocent”. Can she really be unaware of this most basic principle of justice?

    The famous 6% figure, which dates back to around 2010 and was bandied about by Harman and others relates to the number of ALLEGATIONS which end up in convictions – many allegations are not prosecuted and a large number are dropped. The actual conviction rate is about 58% which compares well with other crimes. No other conviction rates for any other crime are calculated by comparison with mere allegations. The courts cannot convict an alleged rapist who is not prosecuted, so Bindel’s logic is flawed (to put it mildly).

    Bindel is a feminist of the sort who believes that rape is the tool used by the patriarchy to maintain its oppression of women, and that all men are potential rapists. She believes that society condones rape. To maintain these beliefs you have to perform a fairly spectacular distortion of logic and evidence which is possibly quite damaging to one’s mental health. Alison Saunders joins Bindel in this, and is well known for distorting the rape statistics, adding in the lesser crimes of which those accused of rape and acquitted have later been convicted.

    If there is a “rape culture” which must be destroyed, it is the culture promoted by the likes of Bindel and Saunders founded on an irrational, hate-fuelled ideology and false statistics. By publishing Bindel’s foaming rant, the Guardian is complicit in discouraging genuine victims from coming forward. Sadly, Baroness Stern’s condemnation of feminist propaganda in her report has not been heeded, “it is clear to us that the way the six per cent conviction rate figure has been able to dominate the public discourse on rape, without explanation, analysis and context, has been to the detriment of public understanding”.

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  5. I can’t read Bindel anyway, I fear it may bring on a rage-induced stroke or heart attack. The video was hilarious though; it says something that we are now seeing feminist “thought leaders” endorsing the kind of authoritarian practices that are (however distantly) key to the rise of someone like Hitler to absolute power; I fear this is what happens when social compacts gradually break down into factionalisation and in-fighting. Eventually society turns to a strongman (or woman I suppose) to force everyone into line again.

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