My thanks to the people who contacted me with complimentary comments on this (video, 13:25).
Dawn Foster, a whiny sour-faced Guardian journalist who was in the discussion, appeared in a video we linked to in 2016 – here.
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Justice for Men & Boys 
Yes well done. Interesting. I did agree with the woman in the “poncho”. In that the sexual revolution did tear up the rules, and indeed now we are seeing feminists trying to write some pretty Victorian rules. She also makes a completely opposite point to feminists that the “me too” stuff should be about actual assaults and nudity, whereas as we know almost all the me too or everyday sexism stuff is precisely about “passes” “unwanted compliments” “creepy looks” all the “playground stuff” the poncho lady says it shouldn’t be!
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Not as bad as I imagined it would be. The lady at the end admitting that men too, can be harassed, and should be protected by any new legislation, was something I don’t think I have ever seen before in a BBC programme.
The guy from Loaded, however, was stomach-churning.
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Yes the Loaded Guy clearly advertising his Mag. as “new” . I suspect because the on line explosion has eviscerated the market for printed Mags. so the’re heading for the “lifestyle” market.
As to the debate I think it does point out the “debate” within “women’s world” between the new Victorians of the snowflake brigade and the free love “slutwalk” mob. Which wouldn’t be a problem except that boys and young men in particular become “collateral damage” of the resultant mixed messages and oppressive “positive action” policies.
One problem is that men have generally left the field of gender relations to women with far too little regard for the impact. Mike and others who step forward deserve support.
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Well, I was shocked.
Shocked by ‘Mangina Jack’ of Loaded magazine’s offer of collective mea culpa, apparently on behalf of all men everywhere.
I for one disown him.
One can only imagine he has an eye on that rag’s advertising income, but I’m blowed if I’m going to actually buy it to find out.
But now here’s a funny thing.
I worked for the very same, and very well known media organisation that brought you this program, for fully thirty years.
I worked with it’s other staff, in it’s studios and offices, drank in it’s bar (known as ‘The Club’ – yes, even the boozing was often in-house!)
I trod the London streets.
I used that city’s public transport, drove it’s roads, spent in it’s shops and many of the other venues that one might expect.
I was around and about and at large, sometimes early, sometimes late.
I all but lived on their premises sometimes!
But Not The Once did I Ever witness any harassment (pronounced harass-ment, please) Of Any Kind, sexual or otherwise, of women.
A very occasional hint of sex, perhaps.
But nothing more.
As an insider, how could this have been.
Surely in all that time I’d have seen ‘Something’?
It’s a mystery isn’t it?
Unless, of course….
P.S.
Mike did Really Well I thought out numbered as he was four to one – when he was allowed to that is.
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This also brought to mind the report last year from Unison about sexual harassment of MPs assistants. I recall the interview on the news of the (female) union representative. The interviewer was clearly irritated with with the said union rep. Because she was quite clear,repeatedly, that the majority of the people(her members) reporting the harassment were men. It was obvious this didn’t fit with how the female newscaster wanted to story to go. The story was quietly dropped by the media.
A “blind eye” was definitely turned.
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