William Gruff is one of a number of regular and valued contributors of insightful comments to this blog. He’s just posted a comment in response to our last blog piece, which concerned the ‘Violence Against Women and Girls’ Summer Newsletter. In case you might otherwise have missed his comment, here it is, in its entirety:
A friend of mine died of cancer three years ago. He was one of the nicest men I have ever met. However, he was very weak where women were concerned and while in no sense the sort of white knight who jumps at every chance to protect a woman he was completely incapable of standing up to them and was easily manipulated.
Talking of the problems he’d experienced in getting his aggressive cancer diagnosed, he said to me, with some bitterness, while a hospice in-patient, that had he been a woman his concerns about the lump growing in his armpit would not have been laughed at and he would have been examined thoroughly straight away. I don’t think he’d ever have swallowed the red pill, had he lived; he would undoubtedly have seen things from a significantly less gynocentric position however.
The point of all that? I don’t think most men will wake up until they realise that we are being sacrificed on the altar of a hateful ideology for the comfort and convenience of women. Any measure that increases institutionalised female privilege, and consequent male disadvantage, to the point that it can no longer be ignored or tolerated, is to be welcomed. [my emphasis] There is no gain without pain.
The sentence I’ve emphasised accords with our view that feminism will ultimately (and inevitably) fail because feminists’ appetite for female privileging is insatiable. The community of men (and women) who understand that feminism is about gender supremacy, not gender equality, is growing by the day.
It’s no wonder male life expectancy is so much lower than womens’ given circumstances like this.
Not that anyone’s listening, but I call for the male pension age to be set lower, to go a little way towards offsetting this until such time as the real problem is effectively addressed.
Call it a step in the direction of equality of you like.
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Agreed. In our manifesto we call for gender equality in expectation of retirement years, which would require a lower pension age for men.
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Female pension age is being increased to that of men’s, which is also being increased. My wife’s pension age is 66, as is mine. However, given that women live on average five years longer than men, their pension age should be five years later. 71 seems about right for women if 66 is set for men.
Women have a child’s conception of what is ‘fair’ (fair is when a woman gets what she wants, when she wants it) and have never wanted real equality with men.
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I would like to ask the opinions of lour ocal contributors here, regarding the causes of the pro-women and anti-men environment in the west. Please note that I have been living in Asia and travelling the world for the past three decades and have never seen such anti-men bias anywhere else in the world,as I see in US,EU and other western countries. Why is it and what is causing it ?,your opinion will be most appreciated. I think we need to get to the root of the problem in order to correct it.
regards,Martin.
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That question requires a very broad answer, which is too much for the comments stream of a blog. If I had to sum up the causes in one fairly brief sentence, I’d say that western men made life for western women too easy and gave them more than was advisable, which leaves western women with not enough to do, which gives them time to ‘think’ endlessly about themselves and what they want, which, given their limitless capacity for consumption, is rather more often than is healthy for us all.
That’s the essence of part of my answer.
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Hello Martin. Like so many things, I suggest the answer to to the big questions are simple – it’s the detail that causes difficulty.
So I start from the premise that people do not willingly do anything unless it is in their interests.
Thus it follows that the interests of the ruling elite are served by misandry – or so they think, call it short termism if you like.
As is so often the case with the nascent species we call Humans, it is to do with the ever present quest for POWER.
If you accept the estimate that about 55% of those who can vote, (and will vote,) are women, then this is the demographic that would-be governments must appeal to. If this diasadvantages any other group (in this case men) then that is just too bad.
The problem is that men – as a group – have no voice, can thus be ignored. It’s the squeaky wheel that gets the oil after all.
So it follows that the only way out of this is to make trouble beyond your size to make the consequences of this unacceptable to those who would follow that policy – ONLY then will things change.
The problem here then is that modern feminism (or femaleism as I prefer to call it) has a 50 year head start. (As oppposed to gynocentrism which goes back to the year dot and is biological in origin and may not be so readily changeable.)
This in turn requires men, as a group, to run faster than ever just to catch up, whereas female advantage and privilege simply has to continue under the weight of momentum to stay ahead.
So I am suggesting that there is very much work to do, and a long way to go. Never the less there is hope, things can be changed and must change, since time itself REQUIRES that nothing stays the same for ever.
It just needs a little push that’s all.
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William,
I think you hit the nail on the head. I could not agree with your brief assessment more. Having said that,what our men need to do now is stop making life for women so easy,convenient,pleasant and privileged. That may be the only way to bring them back to their senses and improve men’s own standing in the society.
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“…what our men need to do now is stop making life for women so easy, convenient, pleasant and privileged.” You are asking men to discard centuries of social conditioning / gynocentrism. What practical steps do you suggest need to be taken to deliver this huge change?
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I would add to what you’ve quoted, Mike (and thank you for reposting it as a separate item), that I see men’s growing disenchantment with institutionalised female privilege leading to the development of a male tribal consciousness that puts men’s interests at the forefront. It won’t be universal but it will be sufficient to influence political thinking amongst a political class that is going to change in its composition because what we have at present are such criminal dross.
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Hello Mike,Epistemol,
I know it is not easy or palatable to most western men to imagine living in a world where women are not exempt from same requirements as men (even though they demand equal pay),where women are not automatically advantaged in selection process,where their salaries may be lower if their performance is lower,where they might not be able to advance to highest positions of power,if their performance is unconvincing or experience inadequate. I also know how difficult it is for a decent man to say these things directly to women at a meeting or in a conference room,let alone one on one. I am aware that after centuries of privileged treatment and utmost courtesy towards women,it is very hard to change course. This is not something that I as a man like either.
But it is women who eagerly abandoned ‘centuries of traditions’ and proclaimed themselves ‘equal’ (even though we all know that without continued perks and privileged treatment there can be no talk of equal performance’). It is women who proclaimed they do not need men,and it is once again women who try to discard every western tradition and replace it with ultra liberal,even leftist propaganda.
It is for these reasons that I believe men should not feel guilty to abandon their generosity towards women,(and centuries of tradition along with it) at least until such a time when women denounce feminist theories and start treating men in a respectful manner again.
Until then,men need to let women have a taste of their own medicine.
No perks,no exemptions,no lighter workload for same pay,no more lenient treatment by court system. And if the government/companies does not listen,then protests,even labour strikes are in order.
But for starters,men need to openly challenge every perk female workers get and men do not. At the office,at the university,at the court and at every other place.
In an equal society,there is no justification for it. None.
As unpalatable as it feels,it has to be done eventually.
Regards,
Martin.
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