Janice Fiamengo’s latest Substack piece In Every White Boy, a Potential Killer has attracted an unusually high number of high quality comments and responses to those comments. Earlier today Yvonne Elizabeth Aston posted this:
“Stop this misandry. It’s like the mud throwing in politics. It is served up again and again. Its roots are based on historic suppression of females and carried on by the sheer misogyny so apparent in too many Muslim countries. Publicity is given to crimes against the female, about fear caused by violent and controlling males, about gender pay gaps, about the unfeeling unfaithfulness of men. All the while is the perfect image of the fear filled female bravely contending with grave and murderous suppression and disregard. I am female. I am currently having problems with a man who lives in the flat beneath me and is basically a psycho. I am also delighted and amazed by my male nephews who want to deal with his treatment of me and also my friends’ husbands who are also appalled by him. Now, in today’s tale of male aggression and female suppression, the psycho is portrayed as Everyman. Normal male behaviour. Where does that leave all the men who are appalled by his behaviour. There are far more men who are angered and disgusted by attempts to bully and scare women than there are of men like him.
So then we progress to perfect women. Where are they, other than in the pages of books on saints and martyrs?
When will this war stop? When will the attempt to cast all men as brutal misogynists and all women as downtrodden saints end? Why cannot we be friends and realise that we are allies rather than opponents. If men and women continue to wish to diminish each other, where will love, respect and happiness be found? My general experience with boys and men is positive. No way can I cast the bullying, ill educated and frankly repellent man downstairs as the representative of most of the men I have met, whether relatives or not. Mr. Everyman is not the bullying, murderous misogynist that we are being encouraged to see him as. So many women are happily married to men. So many women have been cared for and protected by men. What we need to remember though, the news is rarely made up of good things. It is the exceptional nastinesses that make the headlines. Choose, look around you men and women and decide for yourselves to see the majority good guys in life. Not the exceptions who are always leaders in news stories and thence have undue influence.”
I replied with this:
“Yvonne, thanks for you excellent comments. You write:
“When will this war stop? When will the attempt to cast all men as brutal misogynists and all women as downtrodden saints end?”
So long as enough women are feminists and feminists have enormous power – as they have for decades – the war will not stop. Countless female jobs (and some male jobs) exist as a result of this war, including in the rape and domestic violence industries. Feminists HAVE to make women fearful of men to drive those industries.
Rape is rare, as is domestic violence. It’s been known for decades that most victims of DV are men, most perpetrators women (I’m happy to send a link to the Partner Abuse State of Knowledge Project conclusions if you want.)
Feminists hide behind the cloak of unaccountability that all women enjoy. Men (and women to a lesser extent) don’t hold women in general (and feminists in particular) accountable as they should – as responsible adults!!! – in either their private or professional lives.
You write:
“Why cannot we be friends and realise that we are allies rather than opponents. If men and women continue to wish to diminish each other, where will love, respect and happiness be found?”
Women – not just feminists – are fond of diminishing men, while very few men (and no MRAs of my acquaintance) wish to diminish women. Most MRAs wish to treat women as equals but women are so used to being pandered to, they see being treated equally as misogyny.
Misogyny is a vanishingly rare thing, women’s perception that it’s common is a projection of their own misandry (“he’s challenging me, so he must hate me!”) I saw that play out countless times over the 15+ years I’ve been an MRA, including during street campaigning. I’d start to debunk some feminist narrative and a woman would call me a misogynist and walk away.
I hope this goes some way to answering your questions.
Thanks again.”
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