Our thanks to Mike P for this. He writes:
“What a great idea! Someone has to be making the sandwiches while the men are risking their lives, after all.”
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Interesting but I dont approve of conscription anyway. Its really a form of slavery
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Perhaps inevitably it is specifically excluded from the provisions against slavery and forced labour in the UN Human Rights Convention. If there is to be conscription it is only right women are included otherwise they are not making the same sacrifices as their male peers. Unless women are made to experience the responsibilities as well as the privileges there will be no equality and they will have a privileged life. And of course this latter is precisely what modern feminism delivers. Maybe actual equality of responsibility may make feminism seem less attractive.
I suspect that the conscription will not be quite as “equal” as it sounds. In Norway the call up is really a reminder because in fact the called up person can simply write in and say why they won’t respond, you can guess which sex is more likely to answer the call. In Sweden the call up is dependent on the person being “suitable”, no prizes for guessing which sex is more “suitable”. I suppose Denmark may be different but I suspect the same pattern will repeat. However at least both sexes have a similar chance of being called upon.
In the UK eventually young single women were conscripted in WW2 both for armed forces roles and war work (as were men for mining). Women fulfilled many important roles. So I’m sure there is a place for a % of armed services to be female. I suspect the % in the Scandinavian countries will in fact not get much beyond the existing %.
However at least the principle is defending the country is not sole responsibility of males.
Frankly I don’t see feminism losing its allure to women unless they actually experience both the responsibilities as well as the rights. True equality.
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On the topic of forced labour and male responsibilities. The debate in Ukraine about their conscription continues. Including proposals to offer amnesties to 50,000 prisoners. One of the key points in debate reminds me of Judgy Bitch’s blog piece imagining a strike by men, enumerating all the things that would cease to function. Needless to say the effect was far more dramatic than the “women’s strike” in Iceland recently. Well it turns out that in Ukraine by the time you’ve excluded the current national servicemen, volunteers, reservists, gendarmes.; now dead injured or exhausted. And then all the men needed in reserve occupations, agriculture, manufacture, emergency services. Then those not fit enough. Well that doesn’t leave such a big pool of men (in a producer economy with little of the immense government and corporate bureaucracies and service sectors we have) and so the read debate is how young do you go to get fit men? Meanwhile millions of women are still abroad and can still travel away if they wish. Unlike males 18 to 60. And, the debate goes, if you “sacrifice” too many young men, who will rebuild the country? In effect a real example of the fact that it is a “man made” (and man maintained and developed) world. When the chips are down the vital people are the men. And it is they who are asked then forced to shoulder the responsibility not only of fighting but continuing to keep the whole society going.
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Now all the Scandinavian ladies will find out how much fine it is to get your head blown off! This is the kind of “equality” that will make feminists scream, cry and run into the kitchen, put on an apron and say “Ward, I’m worried about the Beaver!”.
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