3 thoughts on “Kathy Gyngell: Meet Harriet and Co. We name the guilty women destroying Labour’s working class base”
Mike
Check out the interview of Erin Pizzy by Jenni Murray on a recent Wimmin’s Hour.
Murray repeated the lie about 2 women being killed every week by their partners, as well as a new dubious statistic about several women committing suicide every week due to IPV
This is a blatant attempt to muddy the figures on how many women commit suicide as a result IPV. The feminist must be seen to have more women suffer death due to IPV then men at all costs to keep the victim status they depend on, for sympathy and cash, and to discriminate based on gender for support of male victims.
No such figures about the causes of suicides are made clear in official government reports. By its nature, reasons for suicide may be impossible to discover fully. Have feminist found a heaven sent way to do this with 100% precision?
Therefore any figures on women’s suicides, stated as fact down to IPV, must be challenged. Especially if inflating them higher than for men for political reasons. The latest ONS figures released 18/02/2014 do not bear out any bias in favour of suicides for women when it comes to IPV. All you can say is men died at the rate of more than 3 to 1 women when it comes to suicide. If you do the projection from the figures, assuming all reasons for suicide are equal, then men must still die at 3 times the rate of women from IPV related suicide. Putting the reason of IPV as a higher percentage among suicides for women would still not get even close to those for men. In fact since 1981 there has been a 44% DECREASE in female suicides overall. Therefore because of IPV it must also of dropped.
From the ONS report they only actually allude to IPV as a possible cause for men.
“The latest suicide prevention strategy for England (Department of Health, 2012) identified
middle-aged men as one of the high-risk groups who were a priority for suicide prevention. A recent report by the Samaritans suggested that middle-aged men, especially those from poorer
socio-economic backgrounds are particularly at risk of suicide due to a combination of factors.
These include social and cultural changes (for example, rising female employment and greater solo living) that have particularly impacted on the lives of the cohort of men who are now in mid-life
(Samaritans, 2012).”
“Greater solo living” in middle aged men indicating higher divorces or unmarried partners splitting up, and therefore more likely hood of IPV being involved in suicides.
The has been no increase and little fluctuation in women’s suicide figures for 10 years so they cannot claim that there is a rise occurring either. Here are the official figures here.
There were 4,129 male suicides registered in the UK in 1981 (an age-standardised mortality rate of
19.8 deaths per 100,000 population). In 2012 the number of suicides registered was higher at 4,590, but the suicide rate was significantly lower, at 18.2 deaths per 100,000 population. The suicide rate did not decline consistently over this period, but fluctuated from year to year.
In 1981 there were 2,466 female suicides registered in the UK (an age-standardised mortality rate of 10.4 deaths per 100,000 population). This was the highest rate of female suicide seen in the 32-year period covered by this bulletin. By 2012 the number of female suicides had fallen by almost 44% to1,391 (5.2 deaths per 100,000 population). However, as with males, there have not been consistent year-on-year decreases in female suicides.
Based on this you can confidently say IPV causes by far more male suicides in the UK, and confidently say they received significantly less assistance to prevent it.
Justice for Men & Boys 
Mike
Check out the interview of Erin Pizzy by Jenni Murray on a recent Wimmin’s Hour.
Murray repeated the lie about 2 women being killed every week by their partners, as well as a new dubious statistic about several women committing suicide every week due to IPV
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I noticed that too, here’s the link:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b04nvbp3
The segment (and quote) occur around 11 minutes in
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This is a blatant attempt to muddy the figures on how many women commit suicide as a result IPV. The feminist must be seen to have more women suffer death due to IPV then men at all costs to keep the victim status they depend on, for sympathy and cash, and to discriminate based on gender for support of male victims.
No such figures about the causes of suicides are made clear in official government reports. By its nature, reasons for suicide may be impossible to discover fully. Have feminist found a heaven sent way to do this with 100% precision?
Therefore any figures on women’s suicides, stated as fact down to IPV, must be challenged. Especially if inflating them higher than for men for political reasons. The latest ONS figures released 18/02/2014 do not bear out any bias in favour of suicides for women when it comes to IPV. All you can say is men died at the rate of more than 3 to 1 women when it comes to suicide. If you do the projection from the figures, assuming all reasons for suicide are equal, then men must still die at 3 times the rate of women from IPV related suicide. Putting the reason of IPV as a higher percentage among suicides for women would still not get even close to those for men. In fact since 1981 there has been a 44% DECREASE in female suicides overall. Therefore because of IPV it must also of dropped.
From the ONS report they only actually allude to IPV as a possible cause for men.
“The latest suicide prevention strategy for England (Department of Health, 2012) identified
middle-aged men as one of the high-risk groups who were a priority for suicide prevention. A recent report by the Samaritans suggested that middle-aged men, especially those from poorer
socio-economic backgrounds are particularly at risk of suicide due to a combination of factors.
These include social and cultural changes (for example, rising female employment and greater solo living) that have particularly impacted on the lives of the cohort of men who are now in mid-life
(Samaritans, 2012).”
“Greater solo living” in middle aged men indicating higher divorces or unmarried partners splitting up, and therefore more likely hood of IPV being involved in suicides.
The has been no increase and little fluctuation in women’s suicide figures for 10 years so they cannot claim that there is a rise occurring either. Here are the official figures here.
Click to access dcp171778_351100.pdf
Overall this is the situation.
There were 4,129 male suicides registered in the UK in 1981 (an age-standardised mortality rate of
19.8 deaths per 100,000 population). In 2012 the number of suicides registered was higher at 4,590, but the suicide rate was significantly lower, at 18.2 deaths per 100,000 population. The suicide rate did not decline consistently over this period, but fluctuated from year to year.
In 1981 there were 2,466 female suicides registered in the UK (an age-standardised mortality rate of 10.4 deaths per 100,000 population). This was the highest rate of female suicide seen in the 32-year period covered by this bulletin. By 2012 the number of female suicides had fallen by almost 44% to1,391 (5.2 deaths per 100,000 population). However, as with males, there have not been consistent year-on-year decreases in female suicides.
Based on this you can confidently say IPV causes by far more male suicides in the UK, and confidently say they received significantly less assistance to prevent it.
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