New domestic abuse law ‘could change Scotland’ (by criminalising men in heterosexual relationships)

Our thanks to James for this. The start of the piece, emphases ours:

A bill to criminalise psychological domestic abuse has been passed, with some campaigners saying it “could change Scotland forever”.

The Domestic Abuse bill, which has wide backing, creates a specific offence of “abusive behaviour in relation to a partner or ex-partner”.

This includes psychological abuse such as coercive and controlling behaviour as well as violence.

Critics claimed it could be difficult to gather sufficient evidence.

However MSPs voted by 118 to one to pass the legislation, with every member speaking in favour during the final debate.

It later emerged that Conservative Margaret Mitchell – who had spoken of the “total consensus” behind the bill – had recorded the only vote against. She said she pressed the wrong button during the vote and blamed the mistake on not wearing her glasses. [J4MB: We need more women in politics.]

Members stood to applaud domestic abuse survivors in the public gallery after the result was announced.

Justice Secretary Michael Matheson said it was a “momentous day”, saying laws would now “reflect the experience all to many women have suffered”.

11 thoughts on “New domestic abuse law ‘could change Scotland’ (by criminalising men in heterosexual relationships)

  1. I have always had the impression, from what evidence is available, that psychological abuse of a partner is more likely to be carried out by women against men, rather than the reverse, and that ‘control freaks’ are equally as likely to be of either sex. Of course, on the rare occasions that a man makes such a complaint, it only needs the woman to make a similar accusation and he will be the one arrested. Ultimately, I envisage a dystopian Scotland half-empty of men, half of whom will have fled to England and beyond. And the gynocentric Scots will have only themselves to blame..

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    • No, because “England and beyond” will have enacted the same laws. There is nowhere for men to flee. They will slowly be picked off, one by one, arrested, sent to prison, placed on the sexual and violent offenders register and the surviving men will become even more insane white knights than they already are (if that is even possible) in a desperate attempt to ensure they aren’t next. But they will be next. Feminists are swatting men like flies!

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    • Oh I should have added that I believe England already has the law that Scotland just passed. The concept of ‘coercive and controlling behaviour’ was made law in 2015. Furthermore, not sure if Mike has seen this, but a man has just been convicted on mere ‘hearsay’ evidence under said law: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5345825/Man-person-convicted-hearsay-evidence.html

      I mean WTF. They don’t even try to hide this shit with any pretense of justice. They just openly admit they’re locking men up with a complete lack of due process. Even Stalin was better than this shit.

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      • Yes England and Wales has the Domestic Abuse offence in the Serious Crime Act 2015. There have as yet been comparatively few prosecutions and the feminist lobby has been getting the MoJ to put pressure on Police forces to increase the prosecutions. The Scottish Law as I read it lowers the “bar” in terms of the evidence required. The Scottish Law will I’m sure be the model for the Bill being proposed in the UK Parliament promoted by Hattie Harman etc. and with the support of Theresa May.
        The Domestic Abuse offence was put into an Act which predominantly was about seizing the funds from Criminal Activity (Drugs, Frauds etc.) so got comparatively little “virtue signalling” coverage. I suspect the new Bill is in fact to garner more publicity than to add much to the 2015 Act.
        Of course the irony is that feminists will go on about such abuse being approved of in society, when in fact for this, as with any other such legislation from Victorian times, men have lined up to support and vote for such legislation. There is nothing more calculated to get the uncritical support of men than a claim to be protecting females.

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  2. “psychological abuse such as coercive and controlling behavior” should capture many more women than men given their propensity to use relational violence (think hen-pecked husbands of which there appear to be many in the UK). Of course, that would depend on having an unbiased police force instead of PC PCs and the PCS (formerly know as the CPS).

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    • Should but won’t. In the Serious Crime Act 2015 the drafters drew back from more psychological abuse because of the obvious possibilities. So it is framed very much at “violence or fear of violence”. The presumption being that this will preclude men using the law over purely psychological abuse or such things of repeated frustration of child contact. In some ways the discussion of these issues by MRAs, Father’s Groups eyc. seems to have alerted the feminist lobby of the danger of losing the link to violence: presumed,threatened or actual. As our society simply cannot accept female violence exists, the Act thus targets men. I’m sure any new act will repeat the formula.

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  3. This SO much doesn’t make sense, one wonders if there is some covert mechanism at work that delivers such an extraordinary concensus.
    Quite apart I mean, from all the usual feMarxist gob poop.

    It’s this that’s almost more worrying than the impending injustice that must follow.

    Bribery or threats perhaps?
    

    Or some other improper proceedure – something quite incompatible with high falutin’ concepts like democracy or justice, that’s for sure.

    Is it unworkable?
    Yes of course – in any fair and reasonable sense.
    Which only leaves un-fair and un-reasonable senses I know.

    The only possible use for it that I can think of is to smash society as we know it
    – so it must be that…

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  4. Appalling undermining of civil liberties (what business is it of the State to regulate private relationships in this manner – its an outrageous intrusion of privacy), but what are we to expect from feminists? They talk about freedom for women but at the end of the day, they only think in terms of the needs of the group. The individual is expected to have their rights overridden whenever they become inconvenient to the Narrative.

    OTOH, this law is a double edged sword for feminists, much like the ever expanding definitions of rape, sexual harassment etc etc. When men’s civil rights returns to the political agenda, this will be one of the laws we can use to attack the feminist claim that domestic violence is a feature of the patriarchy, rather than just an ordinary crime carried out everywhere, by all sexual orientations and genders (i.e. not the preserve of the evil straight man).

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  5. I have mixed feelings about this.

    as pointed out below psychological abuse is the weapon of choice for women.
    I do have skin in this game as I have been myself subjected to this kind of abuse( along with other forms) and in some ways still am .

    Last month I met a survivor who told several of us that he had been subjected to this to the point he attempted suicide. Luckily he was found by the police in time who are assisting him and his lawyers in going after the female perpetrator.I know of a mother whose son was accused of rape in 2015 which took a year to go to court and was dismissed by the judge within 10 minutes for the ridiculous incompetence of the CPS( not the police though as they supported the accused). That man I found out yesterday still has major trust issues with people and has difficulties leaving the house( I’m trying to get him onto a survivors course to help with recovery)

    Aside from the risk of maiming or death, I consider physical violence the quickest to recover from( and I am backed up by several people who work in the field of DV).

    They also concluded that psychological abuse is the worse because its the hardest to recover( due to its long impact) and takes the longest to recover from.

    an example can be the deliberate parental alienation that may occur even after a couple has for instance divorced and settled into a parenting plan…

    maybe the issue is not that this form should be criminalized( it should in my own opinion), but that the threshold of evidence is subjective to whatever bias is being applied by the legal system and as we all know we are still playing this game of double standards for gender. Look below at the quote to see an example of bias NOT equality.

    “Justice Secretary Michael Matheson said it was a “momentous day”, saying laws would now “reflect the experience all to many women have suffered”.”

    I won’t be holding my breath to see the first prosecution of woman for such abuse against a man or indeed against another woman( for a same sex relationship) because we have already seen how the police and the CPS follow their own bias rather than the rule of the law.

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